The Mystery of Composites

For a moment, I’m going to be an astrologer, and tell you about composite charts, why they’re important, and what to look for when you read one.

I don’t know how into composites you already are, but before we start, I want to let you know that I don’t use Davison charts, because they are unnecessarily complicated. If you want to rely on the best source for composite basics, definitely read Robert Hand’s Planets in Composite.

Hand came up with the concept of composites back in the 1970s, during the height of the Pluto in Libra transit, when society really began to focus on relationships and what makes them work or not.

This is the wave Hand was riding at the time, and I’d hate to think that his contribution to communication theory will someday be ignored or forgotten. This comment is for those of you who think he is only an astrologer. No. He’s also a therapist who cares about his clients. These are excellent qualities to bring to astrological analysis, it seems to me.

Here’s the peculiarity about composites: they are made up of raw numbers, nothing more. They are the most theoretical chart you will create, since they are not based on one place, or one birth time, but on two places and two birth times (or more; although composites really do start to break down after three people’s information is logged). So what do composites mean, if they are not “about” something definite, but about a “relationship,” rather than two individual people? Well, that’s what we’re here to discuss: what composites mean and the basics of what to look for when reading one. The composite will show you how the relationship works, how it functions, and what it’s “for.”

A frequent mistake people make when they first look at composites is to want the composite to somehow reveal information about both people as individuals. That is not what the composite is intended for, and so if the composite is giving you difficulty, look at the synastry instead, because that’s where information about the two people as individuals is revealed. A composite is more subtle than synastry in that it requires you to learn how to synthesize the information you’re seeing. A composite sun in the 6th does not mean what sun in the 6th means for an individual, nor does it tell you that one person in the relationship (the man, since in Western tradition the sun symbolises male energy) is a labourer or a Marxist or something; that’s not how this works.

The purpose of the composite is to tell you about how the two people function together, what their relationship means to them, and how their chemistry expresses itself. The composite, handled with delicacy, can tell you more about the mystery surrounding a relationship than anything else, including what the two are willing to tell you (since most people have limits on what they’re willing to reveal to an astrologer). A composite sun in the 8th, for example, is much more demanding than composite sun in the 3rd or 9th, for reasons that have to do with each person’s ability to deal with their deeper emotions (looked at from the psychological realm) or how they handle conjoined money (looked at from the perspective of the purely practical). 

Depending on what you already know about astrology, you can begin to guess why the 8th house composite Sun would ask a lot of the two people, but if you’re feeling lost, any of the water houses (4, 8, 12) are harder for a relationship to express than are air or fire houses. Earth houses (2, 6, 10) can be, for most married people, the easiest energy to express, since most people want what earth houses symbolize: possessions, security, worldly success, etc. You know what I mean. Big screen TVs. Three cars in the garage.

However, water houses are complicated, as befits water in general, so for a relationship chart to contain planets in water houses usually indicates to me that the two people have come together, depending on their maturity level and desire for self-analysis, to make changes in themselves and each other. Because water energy is hard for the individual to explain, the changes will be felt rather than seen for a long time before they manifest. 

Two people rarely come together only to have fun (although composite sun in the 5th would beg to differ). Most relationships that lead to life-long commitments (or that last a lifetime) get pretty serious, and there are deeper reasons the people stay together that transcend children, cars, commitments made in churches, or any of the obvious trappings of materialism and conservativism.

So when you first look at a composite, take a look at three or four basic things. The first things I check are the Ascendent and the house position of the Sun. This helps me establish why the relationship exists (the Sun) and its structure, what will keep it together (the Ascendent, sign, degree, and cusps).

Sometimes the Sun is supported by the ascendent sign, and the ‘rulers’ of each are in aspect, a sign that there is a good chance the relationship has every chance of survival. 

Next take a look at some details, like, where is Venus? What sign is Venus in? Does Venus aspect Mars? Does Venus aspect the Moon? These are good signs, even if the aspects are tough. I don’t care. Any aspect is better than no aspect at all. Time and time again, charts reveal their wisdom to me, and experience confirms my suspicions, which hint that the malefics the ancients bemoaned are misunderstood (and Jupiter is not all-good, for that matter).

But that’s another subject for another day. For today, let’s just make sure the basics of the composite are covered: Venus, Moon, Sun, all speaking to one another and preferably in hospitable houses. The houses these planets are located in will tell me a lot about the basic nature of the relationship, whether it’s going to last long-term or not (but you must look at the composite in relationship to the synastry to get this kind of information).

Then you can start looking at the aspects, and here, just to give a glossy overview, the more oppositions you have (not squares, oppositions) the harder this relationship is going to be. That’s because two people’s energy is being synthesised in the composite, and the more oppositions you have, the greater the likelihood the two people really just don’t see eye-to-eye.

Squares are different, however; squares don’t lead to breakups in the way oppositions do. Squares lead to irritation and disagreements, but if you learn to value each other’s differences, you can stay together longer with most squares than you can with oppositions.

The next most important thing to look for is the location of Saturn. Saturn’s determined work ethic energy can keep a relationship together forever, even when everything else looks bleak. It can, sadly, keep people together when they are absolutely miserable. It represents what each person owes the other, and this could either be considered their karmic debt (which I happen to think you can see in the entire chart, not just Saturn or the Nodes) or their duty to one another in this lifetime. Saturn also represents how the two will work together (or not) to keep the relationship going. So Saturn’s location and aspects are very important as a window into the longevity and strength of the relationship.

So, to summarize: Sun, Ascendent, Venus, Mars, Moon, Saturn. Those are your basics to look for. After that, the key to understanding composites is to think theoretically. Do not think literally. You cannot see the two individuals who make up a marriage in a composite. If you think like that, you’ll never get this.

Think in terms of a Venn diagram or chemistry. It’s what the two people create together that you’ll see in the composite. You know how when they say the whole is greater than the sum of its parts? This is what the composite symbolizes, the energy that is more than the individuals on their own.


Does a composite represent what happens when you lose your individuality and are subsumed by the needs of the relationship? Yes. I’m sorry to break this to you, but most relationships of maturity and depth will require you to make a fair amount of self-sacrifice (this is the theory behind why Saturn is exalted in Libra, because relationships are our ultimate teacher). The goal is for you to become more than you were, so that doesn’t seem like a bad trade. If you ever feel like you are becoming someone you don’t want to be, for god’s sake, get out. Life is way too short to put up with that nonsense. There are far too many starfish in the sea to live with the wrong person forever and ever.

If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask. This is my area of interest, and I know how complicated composites can be to interpret.

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79 thoughts on “The Mystery of Composites”

  1. Hi Alison, i would like to know your opinion about a Sun Saturn square in a composite chart. Saturn rules the 7th house and is situated in the 7th composite house, Sun in Aries on 10th. Both have in their natal charts Sune trine Saturn and in both natal charts Saturn rules the 7th house (capricorn). Thank you.

    1. I’d need to see signs and degrees to give you something accurate. But in general, any time you see Saturn involved, and then Saturn involved in a square relationship to the Sun, you’re talking about a fair amount of work. This sounds, very broadly, like a classically “difficult” relationship. Not that the two people are necessarily unhappy, just that there might be a lot of work involved. The “work” can take many forms. Perhaps the two are each working very hard at their individual careers; perhaps they are both very concerned with getting ahead and “making it” in the material world. Perhaps they are both older, or are putting off having children, or may never have children.

      There are many iterations Saturn can take, but it does sound like a very Saturnic relationship, in that apparently Saturn is a common theme in their various charts. For most people, Saturn either is a force that binds them together in a mutual sense that “we have to make this work,” or it becomes such hard work that one or both give up, because it’s just too difficult. Again, however, I’d have to see the entire chart to know what kind of difficulties they’re most likely up against.

  2. Hi! Thank you for this great article!
    My partner and I have our composite Moon in the 7th! Also, our composite Sun is in the 10th, but 1 degree away from the 11th! Do these sound like good placements for marriage?
    Also, our composite Pluto is opposite our composite Sun, Mercury, and Venus. I am wondering if, because we are both natally highly Plutonian people (8th house and strong Pluto aspects), does this automatically mean break-up, or if we can handle the intensity, could it be a deeply intimate aspect?
    Thank you so much! I look forward to hearing from you!

  3. I forgot to mention, we also have composite Pluto RIGHT on the 5th house cusp! Is this a strong Pluto theme? And again, is it powerful, destructive, or can be it be transforming and bonding? I would love to know your opinion! Thank you so much!

  4. The person in question and myself have in our composite: Vertex (21 degrees virgo) conjunct descendent in 7th and conjunct venus (21 degrees) in 7th. Venus conjunct sun (27 degrees virgo), . . . sun conjunct mercury(6 degrees libra) . . . mercury conjunct jupiter (10 degrees libra) all in the 7th house. Venus square mars (23 degrees sag in 10th house). Moon is 0 degrees Aries in the 2nd house. Pisces rising 18 degrees. Any input is appreciated!! So confusing! :-/

    1. That composite moon will have had certain planets in Aries transiting over it in the past year or so, both Uranus and Jupiter, which is a combination that would prove fairly confusing, it seems to me. My experience with a full 7th house in the composite is that the entire focus of the relationship is how do the two relate to one another… that might sound obvious, except that other house composites are not about how the two people relate to one another, they’re more focused on the issues of the other houses. The 7th is uniquely about ‘the’ relationship. It can actually be one of the more intense composite houses to get in the relationship lottery wheel that is astrology, since most people do not naturally spend all their time thinking about relating. So if you find yourself spending an awful lot of time trying to dissect and analyze the machine-tool parts of this particular relationship to find out how they all fit together, and do they fit together, that’s the nature of a dominant 7th house composite.

      It’s not quite the same kind of energy as the analysis of the 8th house, which has more to do with breaking down the relationship through analysis so as to recreate it in another form. The 7th is much more intellectual in its approach, whereas the 8th is definitely more subtle and beneath the surface, with a lot more angst and emotion (not all of it expressed directly). Although Sun in the composite 7th is supposed to be one of the “best” composite Suns, in my experience, it can be quite a challenge, since it requires so much more work than the other house composite Suns. If you want a Sun composite you rarely have to work at (although when you do, it feels really onerous and annoying) I’d choose Sun in the 5th, which is a relationship about chillaxing, not working on relationships all day long.

      Another thing is that I would rarely endorse a relationship that’s got the unfortunate misfortune of showing up with Saturn in the 12th house of the composite… that usually seems to lead to problems you’re unaware of until you finally can’t ignore them anymore. Quite often, when the two get to know each other better, they find out something about the other they’d either not noticed or managed to ignore, which ends up being more than one person or the other can tolerate or understand. The 12th in composite charts seems to represent the ‘secrets’ being kept from each other, which are often something as simple as the differences in personality types, that ultimately end up surfacing over time (and when you find out how serious the differences are, you have to decide what you’re going to do about them). Or they could be something quite serious; an illness, addiction, relationships on the side, etc., any of which will end up eating the relationship away from the inside. It’s hard to know for sure; I’d have to see how that Saturn is aspected, and what sign is on the cusp of the 12th house, etc., to give a more specific opinion.

  5. sir,
    Please tell me, if i have composite Sun within the last three degree of composite 6th house then whether it will give result as in composite 7th house or not ??

    1. I’m not a “sir,” but I will tell you that in my opinion, the convention of ‘pushing’ the planet (or planetary object) into the next house is misguided and has caused a lot of confusion. It goes back to William Lilly, as far as I understand it (but someone should please correct me if I am wrong) and I’ve never seen its worth. A planet is either in its house or it isn’t. Having said that, I have seen some rather dramatic effects when a planet is literally posited on a house cusp, and in fact, when you have a transiting planet ‘move’ from one house to the next, its emergence on the house cusp can be a liminal moment, when one is faced with making a major transition from one way of life to the next.

  6. You have to keep in mind a couple of things when you look at the composite chart (in relationship to the relationship, so to speak). One is that many, many relationships survive with the most hideous aspects in the composite chart. How do they do this? Well, some of them, like you, are probably more relationship-savvy to begin with; their problems are not about the classic issues you’d associate with Moon in aspect to Saturn. On an individual level, in their natals, each individual is already mature enough and sensitive enough not to push at the dynamics of a difficult square (it helps, for example, if your natal Moon is not inordinately stressed; this makes it easier to be and act like the kind, sensitive, caring person you have to be to remain in a long-term relationship without killing the other person).

    Then too keep in mind that the composite aspects might not come into play (particularly when Saturn is involved) for many years. A transit to the composite, or a transit to the natal, might trigger off something you hadn’t prepared for. There might come a time of emotional loss that you haven’t yet encountered; not trying to ‘scare’ you, just saying that unless you’ve been together for a lifetime already, there are many twists and turns one cannot see coming. There’s only so much you can plan for.

    But mostly I think the best piece of ‘advice’ those who have been married a very long time have to share with the rest of the world is that they stay together largely because they ignore or overlook the other person’s faults. If all you ever do is focus on the negative, that’s what you’ll see.

    It does sound to me, from what you’re saying, however, that it’s possible you each know how to mitigate the effects of a Saturn/Moon square in the composite. The 4th to the 7th square, in natural Cardinal houses, tends to be rather business-like about the problems involved. Saturn in Scorpio can, when expressed with maturity, be a good control on Moon in Leo’s excesses.

    And finally, yes, I do interpret composites differently than natals, in the sense that you do not “feel”, on an individual level, the Moon position of the composite; rather, it represents how you both “do” emotions in the relationship. Given that Moon in Leo is a grandiose place to have composite Moon, but perhaps neither of you feels particularly grandiose in your regular lives, the Saturn in Scorpio might be the indicator that that Moon is not necessarily how you two want to be seen or how you think of yourselves. Moon in Leo in a composite is very lovey-dovey in public; perhaps the two of you are naturally more restrained, symbolized by the Saturn square?

    The real problem with interpretation is that there are infinite variables when you don’t know the rest of the chart and/or the people involved. This is why when you consult an astrologer, you really do have to tell us everything you can think of about your situation, rather than keep cards up your sleeve (so to speak) because without context, almost any permutation of Saturn square Moon (plus signs, plus houses) is possible. I can tell you what the tendencies might be, but I can’t give you specifics. 🙂

    Thanks very much for reading!

  7. Hi Alison,
    Very much enjoyed your article. Synastry and composite astrology is so fascinating! Sounds like you don’t use Davidson’s but do you ever use a progressed composite? Can something challenging in the natal composite (like Saturn in 12th?) which I have with a few folks I really like – sigh- can that be improved by a progressed composite or by relocation or is the dynamic just always there? Also is Saturn square Uranus the kiss of death? Ugh…the rest of the chart (and synastry) seems pretty good. 🙁
    Also, any main asteroids or Arabic Parts you like to use?

    Thanks for sharing!

    1. This is when composites get complicated, when there are a few different places in the chart that do not necessarily look promising. Now, one challenging, difficult or even ‘bad’ aspect is not the kiss of death for any relationship, and I’d always want to see the entire chart before forming an opinion about a relationship. I do think that if you’re seeing a pattern developing where you end up with Saturn in the 12th (or some other combination) is trying to tell you something, though.

      As for Arabic parts, if someone were to ask about a specific issue addressed by the Arabic parts, I’d look up the relevant one(s) to discuss. I wrote about the Part of Death here:

      and the Part of Marriage here:

  8. Can you please tell me what exactly composite means when you say there is a composite sun in the 6th house? I read stuff like this in many places and want to follow what you are saying but cannot for the life of me, find a definition as to what this means. Can you please define this?

    1. First of all, you will need to know what a composite chart is: it is a combination of the data from two (and sometimes three, but not more) people’s charts that makes the midpoint between each planet the primary piece of information you’ll use (Sun in Cancer in Chart A combined with (added to) Sun in Leo in Chart B, when added together and divided by two creates a midpoint between the two, probably in middle or late Cancer).

      Now, that means that the composite represents a mathematical ‘mean’ or midpoint between the two signs/planets involved, and all you’re doing is finding the average or midpoint to determine the composite sign. You will end up with one planet to represent the two people’s combined planetary strengths or numbers.

      Each sign in the equation is given a numbered value beginning with 0 (Aries), going all the way to 360 (Pisces), so that all 360 degrees of the chart are represented.

      Now, logically, if there are 360 degrees in the chart, and I’m a Cancer (which I am) my Sun falls not only at 22 degrees Cancer, it also has a numbered value added from 0 (for the sake of finding midpoints in composite charts) of 144 total degrees (which is my Sun degree plus the amount of degrees from 0 Aries to get to my natal Sun position in Cancer; each sign representing a segment of 30 degrees).

      The entire chart, therefore, comes with each degree of your Sun (and Moon, and then each and every subsequent planet) having its own designated degree plus its distance from 0 degrees Aries. Then you take the two planets in question and average out the median point between them by adding the two together and dividing by two to determine their midpoint.

      Fortunately, computer programs do this for you now. But really, in essence, all a composite chart represents is the midpoints between each of the two signs/planets involved (for every single planet). This is why I say the composite is a purely mathematical chart; it is therefore entirely theoretical. It does not represent two “people,” in any real sense; it’s about potential as envisioned through a process of rather ancient techniques of how the chart has, for a very long time, been “about” numbers. It’s only “real” and psychological when you begin to interpret all the information (including decanates, etc.).

      If you want to really understand at least part of this process, the fastest way to do so is to buy Rob Hand’s book Planets in Composite. That’s where I learned it. I hope I haven’t confused the daylights out of you, but I’m also writing this for anyone else who might have wondered about this who might also be an advanced astrology student. 🙂 Thanks for reading!

      1. Hooray!!! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this!
        I was pretty off in my interpretation so this makes a bit more sense and I am going to get the book per your suggestion.
        Can I ask though, is this different than a combined chart such as those provided with compatibility reports? Where one person is on the inside ring and the other is on the outer wheel? (How is that even decided – who is on the inside?) Is the point of that one to see the aspects between the planets and emphasis’s in different houses? Or can you see the composites within that as well?
        I was reading about stelliums with those type of charts and initially thought maybe a composite would be when you see the same planets appearing in the same house together under the same sign within a few degrees of each other. I.e. two Venuses in Taurus in the 1st house.
        I definitely want to have a better understanding of astrology and have been trying to understand this in my own chart (which feels like a karmically loaded life – but i am not seeing the positive in this) and how charts with other people can be informative as well.
        Thank you!

        1. The kind of “ringed” chart that compares two separate charts with one other is called synastry (a word which comes from the Greek, “sun-astēr”, which translates to “together-star”, so it came to mean, roughly, ‘combined stars’ or perhaps more accurately, combining stars together).

          Generally speaking, all the synastry/comparison of two separate charts I’ve seen automatically put the first person’s data on the outside (so let’s say you go to a website that creates charts and set up the charts, and then input the data; if yours is the first chart you’re using in the comparison, it will automatically be created to appear on the outside of the rings; the other person’s chart being used in comparison will be on the inside). I suppose there are times when a piece of software will reverse that, but I don’t know which software does what specifically, since I am not omniscient and, in spite of potentially sounding like a know-it-all, do not have all knowledge, although I am having a chip implanted in my brain soon to give me a leg up on the competition. Okay, just teasing. 😉

          So, just to be clear, there are two basic types of charts one uses in relationship analysis: one is synastry, when you take two entirely separate charts and compare how they affect each other. The other is the composite, where you combine the data from each chart, find the midpoints of each planet, and place that combined data into one chart (not two separate charts, as with synastry).

          A stellium is not automatically related to either a composite or synastry, although it is possible for a composite to have a stellium (of combined planets from the two separate charts as explained above). Mostly, when we talk about stellia though (the plural of stellium) we’re talking about a natal chart. Technically, the only way a stellium is related to synastry is that either, or both charts can contain its own (entirely separate) stellium. The idea of “sharing” a stellium doesn’t happen in synastry. Remember that synastry is always only about two separate charts, with separate information that is not combined like the data that makes up a composite. On rare occasions, you will see two people with two stellia, each in the same sign/s because they were born within hours or days of each other, but that’s not typical, and in any case, is still read as separate information (not combined mathematical data).

          This is the kind of tutoring I offer, by the way, to anyone who’s interested. 🙂 Basic stuff, advanced stuff, whatever. It’s very hard to describe everything in writing as clearly as it can be described when you’re talking, so not all my answers are really complete.

  9. Thank you for this interesting article. I have been researching about composite charts as I have been trying to make sense of my relationship with some people at work.

    I have been trying to find more articles on aspects between composites to natal in attempts to find out what the relationship means to each of us involved.

    My manager and I have this in our composite – Composite ascendant in libra conjuncts his pluto (also his chart ruler by < 1 deg), conjuncts his venus (1.4 deg) and weakly conjunct his mars (2 deg, all in his 12th house) and opposes my sun in my 7th house in Aries (by 1.5 deg).
    Composite venus squares his natal nodes in virgo (1 deg) and weakly trines his sun. (3-4deg) and squares my ascendant in virgo (3 deg)

    What are the most significant cross aspects to look out for, between composite and natal if the relationship means something more for the people involved? Can you please comment (in a broader sense) on what you make out of the aspects in our composite chart?

    Thanks in advance, as I have been searching without much luck to make sense of these aspects. I find the title of this article "The mystery of composites" to be very appropriate 🙂

    1. Very broadly, when someone’s natal planet conjuncts a composite point in a chart, that relationship (as represented by the energy of the composite) is of great importance for them, for any of a number of reasons. Two degrees is not considered a “weak” conjunction; actually, it’s quite strong. That the composite ASC is conjunct Pluto/Mars/Venus stellium and at the same time opposes your Sun tells me that this is a power-balancing situation for both of you.

      Power is a large motivator in this situation; how power is expressed, who has it, who controls whom. I cannot tell you what are the most significant cross-aspects to be aware of, because I cannot know without context what else is going on that matters here. However, if his Pluto opposes your Sun, that on its own should tell you there’s an issue around power as the core issue of this relationship; not unusual in a work relationship.

      Pluto in relationship to Sun is never easy in synastry, no matter the aspect. I can sense in your detailed questions that this relationship has its issues, but realistically, that’s the way business relationships go. You ride the situation out until you find some peace in it, or move on. Without more context, that’s all I can assess at this level.

  10. Thank you for your detailed response. You are right. This relationship seems to be ridden with power issues or at least everything seems to end up as a power issue.

    If I decide to look into this further or in detail, how can I seek your services?

  11. Hello,

    I know this article is 4 years old, but I would really appreciate your opinion on a synastry/composite chart of me and my ex boyfriend. Wondering why the relationship is difficult for me to let go of and I guess, if we have a chance of staying together if we get back together?

  12. I was wondering about something, earlier you said that one or both of the persons natal planet being in conjunction with a point In the composite means the realtionship will be important but what do you mean? By natal planet are you saying like for example my husband’s a scorpio and I’m a cancer so would his natal planet be pluto and mines be the moon or? I’m confused. Also I had noticed that we have very positive aspects to mercury in our composite and it’s in the 5th house we have the sun and venus in the 4th house while having mars in the third and pluto in the 6th mars is in opposition with uranus and trine with pluto I’m not sure if we have sextile or square mars and pluto in our synastry though. I’m sorry for all this essay 🙁 I was just wondering if you could explain to me what all of those aspects mean?

    1. Start by taking a look at your own natal chart and see if there are any planets in it that you also see in exactly the same sign and degree in the composite. If you see a planet in your own chart (or another point, like the Nodes or ASC, etc.) that is the exact same as something you see in the composite, the relationship has a profound resonance for you. Start there and let me know if you get the basics, and then ask the rest of the question. 🙂

  13. Hello: Can you shed some light on the relationship or marriage potential for two people with a packed sixth house composite? I have six planets in the sixth house with a man I care about. We have the sun in sag in the 6th house, mercury in sag in the 6th house, venus in scorpio in the 6th house, uranus in Scorpio in the 6th house and neptune in Sag in the 6th house? I understand most things in astrology except for the sixth and the 12th house. I would really appreciate some assistance in understanding this and I respect your opinion based on things I have read!

    1. Thank you for your kind words. I’d suggest reading both the 6th and 12th houses in the Astrological House series (see above). Other than that, it would be helpful if you tell me if your relationship has exhibited any of the kinds of 6th house behaviors or states of being, such as the relationship beginning at your place of work. The relationship itself might also be work, involving some kind of physical hardship (one or both of you might need medical help or physical help of some sort; one or both of you might be unwell, sick, handicapped, etc.). There is often an underlying theme of someone needing help, and someone doing a lot of work—physical or emotional—to cope with the person who isn’t doing so well in the relationship.

      Another type of 6th house relationship involves an imbalance of some sort; one person is of higher social rank than the other, or makes significantly more money, is older, etc. At the core of each of these relationships lies the root of the sixth house condition, which is that it is, in some way, more of a test or even a ‘burden’ than other types of relationships. No matter how good or happy the relationship is, there is something within it that leads one person to be subservient to, or be forced to take care of, the other. There are people who are, to all intents and purposes, caretakers for one another. This combination (the 6/12 axis) has to do with both bodily and spiritual needs. One ‘feeds’ the other.

      Most people I’ve talked to who have this composite are either completely fine with the ‘burden’ it represents, because they consider themselves to be very spiritual and ‘use’ the relationship to address certain karmic debts they feel they must pay; or, conversely, they feel the burden acutely and become tired and overwhelmed over time. I think a lot depends upon how you feel about equality and balance in a relationship, because these relationships usually seem to lack that ‘absolutely equal’ sense of fairness and balance that most people seem to want, and since they often revolve around work, they might not be a fun relationship, but might represent an ‘adult’ relationship, one whose requirements will help both people accept responsibility and become more serious people.

  14. Hi there,

    Just found that I have natal Mars at 11 degrees in Aries, and the composite with my significant other possesses Mars at 11 degrees in Aries.

    Would say that this indicates that I’m more comfortable with handling the aggressive nature of our relationship?

    1. That’s an interesting question. I do not think you are necessarily “automatically” going to be more comfortable dealing with what you’re calling the “aggressive” nature of your relationship. You might be… but it sounds like a bit of a loaded question.

      First of all, you’d have to define what you mean by “the aggressive nature” of your relationship. For some people, aggression equals getting beaten; for others, “aggression” is a lot less stressful and even fun. Few people truly enjoy what I think of when I think of aggression, so you’d have to define what that means for you.

      In other words, not enough details to give you much of an answer. 😉

      1. In the case above both must have an 11 deg Aries Mars, otherwise you’ll never get a compo 11 deg Aries Mars. No diff. for one or another here.

  15. RE: Packed sixth house composite – THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY!!!!!!!! 🙂

    Good evening Dr. Gunn,

    I hope you are having a good day and that the holidays have been kind to you and your family. I also wish you a happy New Year filled with love, excellent health, travel, fun time with friends and prosperity.
    I sincerely appreciate your reply. I’ve studied astrology in detail for many years, however, I am not as knowledgeable as you are with this topic. I have never felt so responsible for another human being as I do for the man I mentioned above and we are not in a relationship. We are just friends. We met at the gym (we both work out a lot) and we both currently do not have health issues. I have to admit that I am worried because we both pride ourselves in being extremely healthy. He is a vegetarian and I am thinking about becoming one too. I have my moon in the 12th house (Taurus) and the following planets in Sagittarius in the sixth house: Mercury, Venus and Uranus. I do my best to be extremely healthy, eat well and minimize stress. He has the following planets in Sagittarius in the sixth house: Mercury, Mars and Neptune. We are both very kind to each other and very helpful to one another. It is a strange relationship and I have never felt this way for someone before. I love him unconditionally. I am not sure if this is a romantic thing. He is a Scorpio (Moon in Aries) and I am a Sagittarius. He has Saturn in Virgo and I have Saturn in Libra. We are mostly semi-sextile everything. I am a moon in Taurus and he is a Moon in Aries. I am a Sagittarius and he is a Scorpio. His venus is in Scorpio and mine is in Sagittarius. We are literally one sign away from each other in regard to everything. It is weird! He is a Sagittarius Mars and I am a Capricorn Mars. My True Node is in Leo and his is in Virgo. This all just does not make sense and yet we spend a lot of time together talking about spiritual topics and do want to work together. I certainly do not want any health issues for either of us.

    I will read more on the sixth house and the 12th house but I do not think they are understood well at all. They are bit of a mystery and when I see charts that have 12th house and 6th house placements, I am not always sure what to think? I am really not sure what to think about the potential of a packed sixth house composite? It does not sound like fun but we always have fun when we are together.

    I wish I could go to the Vatican and read all the Astrology books that they have there. I think they have a huge collection of books there and we are all missing information in regard to the 12th and 6th house. That would be amazing and a dream come true.

    This is our composite:

    Composite Horoscope midpoint method
    planet sign degree
    Sun Sagittarius 7°41’48 in house 6
    Moon Aries 24°43’14 in house 11
    Mercury Sagittarius 15°05’57 in house 6
    Venus Scorpio 21°59’54 in house 6
    Mars Sagittarius 28°32’00 end of house 6
    Jupiter Virgo 8°30’36 in house 4
    Saturn Virgo 25°35’12 in house 4
    Uranus Scorpio 22°15’54 in house 6
    Neptune Sagittarius 19°45’43 in house 6
    Pluto Libra 20°51’23 in house 5
    True Node Virgo 3°42’58 end of house 3
    Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

    HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
    Ascendant Gemini 29°32’12
    2nd House Cancer 19°48’00
    3rd House Leo 10°53’13
    Imum Coeli Virgo 6°25’33
    5th House Libra 9°58’31
    6th House Scorpio 20°56’21
    Descendant Sagittarius 29°32’12
    8th House Capricorn 19°48’00
    9th House Aquarius 10°53’13
    Medium Coeli Pisces 6°25’33
    11th House Aries 9°58’31
    12th House Taurus 20°56’21

    Thank you for your help with this.

  16. Dear Dr. Gunn,

    I think a forum would be a great idea. I would participate! I wonder if my birth time is not accurate? I like doing things with this person and when we are together, everything is an adventure. It does not feel like a burden at all. I am not sure what to think and I will just let it unfold. If it is meant to be, it will be. If it isn’t – I will be crushed but I will move on. I would rather just be a friend than nothing at all anyway. I am also not so sure what I think about the possibility of the relationship becoming a burden. We both deserve way more than that and I would never want to be a burden on anyone. It just is not my style.

    Thank you.

    1. The 6th house experience feels different when you’re friends or work companions. For one thing, if you’re not sharing space and/or living together, the sense of burden or it being a task has to be lessened; it just makes sense that you’re not actually responsible for a friend, most of the time, the way you would be for a life partner. Of course, if you’re using the word ‘friend’ euphemistically, then you have to go back to the idea of letting the relationship unfold. Also, I’d look to see which house your composite Saturn falls in, because that would color the nature of the 6th house relationship, due to Saturn’s association with karma and work needing to be done.

  17. In our synastry my Sun squares his Saturn and my venus squares his Saturn and my Saturn in Libra squares his Moon in Aries. In our composite our Sun squares our Saturn and Jupiter. These are all not fun/good things and Saturn in the 4th house is not a good sign either. I am a foolish person for even thinking I love this man in this manner, I do not understand it and I am glad I was not intimate with him. He keeps me at a distance and yet I am the one he brings to Thanksgiving and Christmas with his family as I sit here on New Year’s by myself. I am just a friend to him, our synastry is not the greatest and our composite is terrible. I know better. I was hoping that you would see something else. I have to just move on. Thank you.

    1. Another thing to look at in synastry are the houses each person’s Suns (and planets) fall in (in each other’s chart). For example, if his Sun falls in my 3rd house, I’m going to think of him more as a brother than a lover. If his Sun falls in my 8th, I might feel sexually attracted, but perhaps also overwhelmed and dominated. If your Sun falls in his 2nd, he might be unable to ignore you, because you bring your light to his body and materiality-related house, and that could well translate to a sexual attraction. A lot of synastry and mutual attraction depends on how the planets affect each other’s charts. I had a “friend” once who, sadly, had his Sun falling in my 8th, while my Sun fell in his 11th. Did he see me only as a friend? Hell yes. Sigh. Did I see him as more? You betcha. This sort of basic synastry exists only to bring us pain, I swear to god.

  18. Hi! That was a great article. Your perspective on composites seems very authentic and compelling. What are your thoughts about a fiery sun (Leo) placed in a water house (8th) ? Does it indicate suffocation, especially when opposed by Saturn?
    The ascendant here is Capricorn and so I expect that should indicate a very serious, mature, ambitious and practical couple identity, however the packed eighth house (sun, moon, Chiron, mercury and vertex ) seems to imply a very intense, magnetic, transformational relationship, with spiritual rather than material tones.
    Its a complicated chart I’m studying, for a friend who’s geographically distant from me at the moment so much about the relationship cannot be observed objectively. I would really appreciate it if you could drop in a few insights here. Thank you!

    1. In general, I really don’t recommend 8th house relationships for most people. You’d have to tell me more about the individuals involved, what they’re each like on their own, and what they each expect from relating and from this relationship in particular. Composite 8th house Sun relationships too often end due to power struggles, since the “successful” 8th house requires one to transcend ego issues. Now, if each person is ready for the kind of compromise 8th house relationships require, it could work out just fine, but it’s usually not one’s first big ‘romantic’ love, since an 8th house Sun-type relationship doesn’t come along in your life all that often (unless you’re a predominantly 8th house person and you’re attracted to this sort of thing). Think of this type of relationship as most likely occurring along the path for spiritually-inclined people, existing to test each person’s ego issues. The chart you’re constructing sounds like the two people will be required by something (usually life itself, aka “fate”) to be more mature and self-sacrificing than they’re used to, but it also implies that there’s a lot of hidden material that won’t automatically be easy to sort through.

  19. Hi 🙂 in my composite chart we have saturn opposite chiron 2degree,its the only much do u think its difficult?:/ also,we have 7 planets in 12th house(if his birth time is correct)..but that means it makes a pressure on the 1 st house (like the stellium s energy can touch the 1st house even if its like 15 degree apart no?

    1. Ah, here is the earlier comment.

      One aspect in any chart does not have enough power to make or break an entire relationship, although any opposition can be difficult. Should one opposition be enough to destroy a relationship? No. You need a lot of stressors to completely destroy most viable relationships, but the key is determining which is a truly viable relationship, and even then, astrology cannot tell you anything more than the potential between two charts. You might have stunning aspects with someone you’ve never even met. You might have stunning aspects with a building. Be careful. 😉

      As for your stellium, although I am not absolutely sure what you mean, I think I understand the gist, and I’d have to reply that if the stellium is in the 12th, it’s in the 12th. The only real way the 1st house would be affected would be if the ruler of the chart (discovered by the sign on the ASC) was posited in the 12th. 15˚ is way too far from the ASC to worry about.

      1. eum yup ruler is in 12th house..but what made me worry abt the oposition is that chiron is the first planet of the bowl pattern so its very important.and its opposite saturn..+ we have pluto singleton square saturn and square chiron(also plutosemi square jupiter and sextile uranus neptune).and jupiter is at 8degree vindemiatrix..

        1. Well, the aspects you’re describing sound legitimately difficult to overcome the effects of, but when I first started researching long-term relationships (focusing mostly on long-term marriages) I was pretty shocked to see composites and synastry with some truly heinous intra-aspects. I determined a few things; one, a lot depends on how each individual person handles the energy of those planets (particularly in synastry); two, many couples just choose to ignore things they can’t change.

          Also, something I learned is that a lot of people I have spoken with are actually in pretty serious denial about the negative energies in their relationship, but, ironically, it’s that denial that keeps the relationship going. So it all depends on what you want. Do you have the emotional strength to face what’s wrong with your relationship and at least try to fix it, or is it better, when all is said and done, to leave it alone?

          They say when you’re raising children you have to pick your battles, and that is true in long-term marriages as well. Plus, one of the things you cannot predict accurately is how bad it’s going to get when it gets bad, and which of the two people will give up, and under what circumstances. So there are a lot of factors to consider in any situation, and that’s a major reason why I counsel people not to automatically give up just because they see difficult factors in a chart, but realize that they will probably have to deal with those difficult factors in some way, at some point.

  20. Hi!i posted a comment but its not appearing so ill post again… I have chiron opposite saturn in our composite chart!how much is it difficult?!its the only opposition.+if his birth time is correct we have a stellium of 7planets in 12th house:/ but since there are 7planets does it mean the big energy of the stellium conjunct the 1st house?its a bit far from the ascendant though . Like 15-20 degrees appart.+ jupiter is at 8 degree libra .. What i want from this relationship is that it realise my dream of living with someone or friends and be happy.its a long distance relationship till now cuz he was in jail.(drugs and we re in lebanon so illegal) we re gonna meet soon..before he go to jail we knew each other but werent close thx.he s a pisces (9deg) and im a sag (22deg)

  21. Hi! In our composite chart we have lots of squares, Can i send you the picture of our chart? It would be easier that way to tell where the squares are and what other aspects we have 🙂 i would appreciate it 🙂

    1. I usually reply very generally to most questions, so unless you are in need of my professional services as an astrologer, I do not have enough information from the person leaving the comment/question to do more than comment very broadly to anyone’s chart details. Very generally, of course, it’s rare that you’re going to hear any astrologer tell you that a lot of squares are ever going to be easy to deal with. I personally would not give up on a relationship just because there were a lot of squares, but then, I have a lot of fixed energy squares in my natal, so I am more accustomed to dealing with the frustration and difficulty that come with squares. If you’re someone who needs everything to be ‘reasonable’ and make sense in a relationship, of course, putting up with a lot of square energy isn’t going to make sense to you, and why should you put up with energy that you don’t already have in your own chart? We pick similar people whose energies we resonate with; we don’t end up with complete strangers who are also completely unlike us. Usually a lot of squares between the two people reinforce the message that you both need to change your ways, but it’s very rare to see two people who each have a lot of squares in their own natals be anything but miserable in (but tolerant of) a relationship that anyone else would think of as impossible. People with a lot of squares in their own natals are accustomed to causing problems for other people due to their intractable nature. You’re not likely to find someone who’s really easy to get along with who also has a lot of natal squares in their chart, not unless they’ve spent all their time mastering their inner turbulence and perverse qualities, the counterproductive behaviors and the parts that make no sense, except to someone who also has a lot of squares. It takes one to know one, as they say.

  22. Hi! I yesterday comment here and ask you if you could tell something about composite chart witsh have lots of squares, for example sun aquare saturn, mars, pluto and moon square saturn, mars and pluto. Sun and moon are in opposite and saturn conjunct pluto are opposite to mars. They make of course a big cross. Sun is in cancer 11th house, moon is in 5th house capricorn, mars in 8th house aries and saturn scorpio, pluto libra in 3th house. Venus, jupiter, mercury, uranus and neptune make almost only easy aspects. It is hard to find something positive about these, so if you find that i would be clad. Thank you 🙂

    1. I think a great deal depends on the kind of relationship it is and what you yourselves expect out of it. No matter what astrology says, you alone have to live with the energies. There is typically a source of tension that goes unresolved in longterm relationships with what is a grand square in the composite, often leading to frustration and a sense that one person is constantly blocking the other’s wishes or desires. On the other hand, a lot of this energy goes completely unnoticed on a conscious level, so you’d have to tell me how much of the energies of these squares you’re aware of. Sun in Cancer in the 11th implies that you both probably treat each other more as family than as lovers, but only you know for sure. The 11th house composite Sun is often the house of friendships and companions, more than representing some big passionate love affair. Keep in mind that not everyone needs or wants a big passionate love affair. Most marriages that last are what’s known as “companionate” marriages; they rely on comradeship and partnership, rather than passion and what we typically think of as romantic love.

  23. Hi Alison
    I was wondering what to make of a composite with Neptune in the 1st house opposite the Moon in the 7th. Both are squaring Saturn in the 4th which is at the apex of a yod from a stellium in the 9th and Mars in the 11th?
    Any feedback would be really appreciated, thank you so much

  24. Sarah, you are asking a very interesting and complicated question, one I find intriguing, since Neptune presents a challenge in any chart. The fact that this particular Neptune exists in the 1/7 axis, the axis of Self and Other, indicates that there is a question in the nature of the relationship itself about what “we” are; how do we represent this relationship? Are we a solid couple (planets in the 10th would say “yes” definitively, whereas planets in other houses might challenge the way the couple present themselves, whether they behave as a couple, or whether they have this sort of nebulous sense of each person going their own way, only coming together as a couple, as a definite unit, when they absolutely must).

    Moon in opposition to Neptune in general indicates a romantic relationship, or a dreamy, illusionary, or hard to pin down relationship. It can also be a relationship where the two people are drawn together because of interests and/or imbalances each brings to the relationship. I’d pair Neptune with Moon when thinking of artists, spiritualists, occultists, those interested in spirituality, astrology, art, etc. But also, keep in mind that the two people are not going to present themselves with this Neptune/Moon opposition to others as pragmatic most of the time, although I’d have to see the signs involved and what lives in the rest of the houses to know for sure.

    This is a tricky Neptune, since in the composite 1st house, it’s very easy for the two people to perceive themselves, or to behave, as very confused/confusing in how they respond to the world. An example would be a relationship that must be kept secret, where the very nature of the relationship itself is to confound others. Neptune in the 1st is a sign of a ‘mystery,’ of not being able to pin down what this relationship is about, or, in some cases, the identities of the people in question are either unclear or are somehow kept hidden (from one another is also possible). This would be augmented if you saw 8th house or Scorpio influences.

    Alternatively, it’s entirely likely, given all of the other planets in aspect to this Neptune, that this is a “Neptunian” couple, in that perhaps they represent Neptunian goals. From my perspective, Neptunian goals are “about” that which lies outside of the normal realm of human endeavor, however you’d define that. These are then less likely to be, for example, realtors or office managers, for example; but if you find otherwise earthy types with this combination, the response to this relationship, unless they’re open to a life-changing relationship (particularly with that Yod) is likely to be fear-based (due to Saturn/4th house energies), since combining Neptune/Moon/9th house energy with the way the relationship behaves and presents itself to the world and how the world responds (1/7 axis) is going to be a challenge for the average person, unless they were actively seeking soul growth and what is likely to be a spiritual quest.

    The 9th/11th house tells me a few things. One is the idea that the relationship demands the two people open their minds/lives to the untrodden path. Both people are challenged by this relationship to do things they likely have not tried to do before. Maybe one person is more into change than the other, but there is the potential for mind-expanding journeys of all sorts. The greatest likelihood with that Saturn and 4th house influence is that some stereotypes about how the relationship, or how ‘relationships’ in general are “supposed” to go will be challenged. I honestly would not see this as an automatically easy relationship. It might be one you have to grow into and adapt to, or, with the 9th and 11th house influence, it might be one where you’re better off being friends and not trying to push your own boundaries too far.

    But a very interesting question, which has reminded me that at some point I will be writing about Neptune in the relationship charts, because there are so many questions about this planetary energy. Thanks for asking your question! 🙂

  25. Hi Alison,
    I was looking for insights about a composite where NEPTUNE falls in the 7th house, conj Venus, conj True Node and opposite Mars (1st house) conj the Sun.
    hose are the only oppositions. Is this a case of a couple (me) who struggles between reality and fantasy or is this perhaps just the case of a relationships where idealized partners love each other a lot and make efforts to keep the relationship “real” and concrete despite their dreamy tendencies ?
    As for the rest, the Moon is really nicely placed in 4th house, making sext and trines to all the planets above (Venus, True Node, Neptune, Soon), I would say a happy Moon !
    Is, in your experience, Netune always making reality of a relationship foggy and misleading or it can also lead to a positive outcome ?
    Many thnks !

    1. Thanks very much for reading the site. I can tell you that there is no “always” or “never” in relationships or astrology, largely because (and this is the thing I think has to be made clear to readers and those who want a chart reading) each part of each chart literally is different, and here’s why.

      There are details about your Neptune I do not know at this moment. I don’t know what degree it’s in, for one thing; I don’t know how each of you individually express Neptunian energy separately. I don’t know all the aspects (not just the ones you’re telling me about) involving Neptune. I also don’t know the balance of the rest of the chart, the conditions of the houses, etc.

      I find, for example, when I look at charts for someone who has told me what they’re concerned about, that that’s not what the chart tells me at all. In other words, you might be looking at Neptune when in fact there’s something else you should be looking at.

      The other thing that’s true is that I have no idea what your partner would say if you asked him these questions. If you asked him if he struggles with fantasy and reality, what would be his response? He might not perceive a problem, or he might, I do not know. Personally I always start with synastry and do a composite only after the two people and their separate issues are clarified.

      So in summation, in terms of your questions, a lot depends on how you’re using the energy of your planets, and how Neptune functions in each person’s chart.

      At a deeper level, if you’re looking for reassurance about something going on between the two of you, I’d need to actually do the charts to see what it is that is of concern to you. Let me know if you want to pursue a formal reading. 🙂

  26. Hi Alison,
    I’ve recently discovered your website and i love it! Thank you
    I was wondering what a composite with venus, mars and mercury in the 6th house would generally imply?
    The sun and saturn is in the 5th, and asc is Sagittarius if thats any help x

    1. Thank you for finding and reading the blog. Very generally, 5th house Sun relationships are fairly “easy” in the sense that they usually begin under relatively pleasant circumstances. However, Saturn in the same house with other planets tends to muddy the waters, complicating the relatively simple energy of the Sun’s position. Energy from the 6th, though, is very different, in that most 6th house planets in a composite require the two people to focus on much less pleasant subjects than the 5th house Sun would prefer. Very generally, composite Sun in the 5th tells me the two people do best under easy circumstances, particularly when there’s little pressure. Depending on the individual charts, that would be supported or made harder if one or both people doesn’t like to have to work harder than they’re used to to keep a relationship going.

      The 6th house planets tell me that one or both of you has come into this particular relationship with the idea that a relationship should be more than having a good time together, because 6th house planets are actually a fairly heavy energy and tend to wreck too many relationships with the almost constant focus on stuff that needs to be done or fixed or worried about.

      However, keep in mind that this is very general, and the fact that the relationship has Sagittarius on the Ascendent is not necessarily a warning sign, but that in general, relationships with composite Sagittarius on the Ascendent don’t automatically prefer doing 6th house type stuff. Composite Sagittarius relationships like to go out, do fun things, and in general would prefer travel to cleaning the house. Consider also that the location of the ruler of the chart, in this case, Jupiter, will tell you something about how that Sagittarius energy will express (and in what area of life). Look at how the ruler of the chart is aspected. Also look at the nodal axis, because that can tell you a lot about the purpose or direction of the relationship.

  27. Dear Dr. Gunn,

    it is a extremely interesting article and your insight is amazing.

    In my natal chart, I have pluto in first house (not conjunct ascendent) with exact trine to venus, I have 3 questions and would be grateful for your reply.

    1. Pluto Conjunct Asc in Composite (less than 2 Deg) how does it manifest? (I had same aspect in my last marriage which ended terribly and with the new guy, i have it again. though with this new guy, the communication aspects are better)

    2. Yod in Composite? (with the new guy, our composite have a yod (sun conjunct mercury at end of 3rd house (4deg away from IC) as apex with saturn in 8th and mars in 10th forming base of yod).. how does yod play out

    3. moon opposition saturn (moon 2nd- saturn 8th), he is a billionaire and I am a accomplished professional but no where in his league, is it only about emotions of the money imbalance. the rest of composite is all peaches and creme 🙂

    thank you

  28. thank you Dr. Gunn, 🙂
    I agree to your response, query was rather specific so you are right.

    in that case, can you tell a bit generally about Yod in a composite chart?

    1. Yods are fairly unique energy, but you have to keep in mind that a Yod represents tension that must be expressed somehow. Two sextiles and an inconjunction do not make for peace and quiet. Generally speaking, the two people can be quite nervous around each other whenever there’s an inconjunction in a chart, and/but these sextiles do not resolve the tension of an inconjunction. Sextiles, on their own, are not particularly ‘powerful’ aspects, so they do not do much, but they show us a way out if we take the energy offered and do something with it. Depending on where the inconjunction is, what houses/signs, you might have to cope with a fair amount of discontent. An inconjunction means that one side of you wants something the other side cannot easily supply, and is forced to change its entire way of being to make happen. The Yod will give you this tension, but will offer the possibility of fixing it through the signs and planets involved in the sextiles. I honestly don’t know that I would spend a lot of time considering a Yod in a composite chart unless the ruler of the chart was involved somehow in the Yod. Take a look here: for more, although I would not convey this energy as presenting a ‘block’ when it comes to a composite chart. The interpretation given in that link is for a natal chart.

  29. Hi I have been friends with this guys for years( coming on 4 years now.. there has always been an incredible attraction between us but we have always been unavailable to each other hense forming and incredible friendship. I never thought anything would ever happen but recently we have had the opportunity to come together as more then just friends. I am having a look at our composite and from what I have read is that some of our aspects represent doom and gloom! However we have some incredible aspects too, really strong connections between all the inner planets but lots of hard aspects from the outer planets. We both feel that we have a really special connection.. we are both very spiritual, musical and open and are able to talk for hours on end with each other.. Initially we cam together to build a charity fundraising event and the way we met was fairly bizarre. I have looked at a lot of composites between myself and lovers and this one really stands out.. I dont have this many aspects with anyone else! ( one question is it possible that the good aspects help balance out the hard ones) can a chart balance itself through a mixture of hard and soft aspects. We also have a Kite formation and a grand square I was wondering what you would make of a composite with these aspects…

    Sun,mercury,venus 7th house
    moon in 11th house
    Saturn in the 10th
    Jupiter in the 4th
    Uranus 9th

    Planet Aspect Planet Orb

    Sun Trine Moon 2.47
    Sun Conjunction Mercury 3.17
    Sun Conjunction Venus 2.56
    Sun Sextile Mars 1.45
    Sun Trine Jupiter 3.91
    Sun Square Saturn 1.88
    Sun Square Uranus 7.22
    Sun Square Neptune 1.48
    Sun Square Chiron 3.97
    Sun Opposition Lilith 1.94
    Sun Opposition Ascendant 3.03
    Sun Square Midheaven 0.49

    Moon Trine Sun 2.47
    Moon Trine Mercury 0.70
    Moon Trine Venus 5.03
    Moon Sextile Mars 3.92
    Moon Trine Jupiter 6.37
    Moon Square Pluto 2.59
    Moon Quincunx Chiron 1.51
    Moon Sextile Ascendant 5.50

    Mercury Conjunction Sun 3.17
    Mercury Trine Moon 0.70
    Mercury Conjunction Venus 5.74
    Mercury Sextile Mars 4.62
    Mercury Square Saturn 5.05
    Mercury Square Neptune 1.69
    Mercury Square Chiron 0.80
    Mercury Square Midheaven 3.66

    Venus Conjunction Sun 2.56
    Venus Trine Moon 5.03
    Venus Conjunction Mercury 5.74
    Venus Sextile Mars 1.12
    Venus Trine Jupiter 1.34
    Venus Square Saturn 0.68
    Venus Square Uranus 4.65
    Venus Square Neptune 4.04
    Venus Opposition Lilith 0.63
    Venus Quincunx True Node 0.56
    Venus Opposition Vertex 1.02
    Venus Opposition Ascendant 0.47
    Venus Square Midheaven 2.07

    Mars Sextile Sun 1.45
    Mars Sextile Moon 3.92
    Mars Sextile Mercury 4.62
    Mars Sextile Venus 1.12
    Mars Opposition Jupiter 2.46
    Mars Quincunx Chiron 5.42
    Mars Trine Lilith 0.49
    Mars Square True Node 1.68
    Mars Trine Vertex 2.14
    Mars Trine Ascendant 1.58

    Jupiter Trine Sun 3.91
    Jupiter Trine Moon 6.37
    Jupiter Trine Venus 1.34
    Jupiter Opposition Mars 2.46
    Jupiter Quincunx Saturn 2.02
    Jupiter Sextile Lilith 1.97
    Jupiter Square True Node 0.78
    Jupiter Sextile Vertex 0.32
    Jupiter Sextile Ascendant 0.87
    Jupiter Quincunx Midheaven 3.41

    Saturn Square Sun 1.88
    Saturn Square Mercury 5.05
    Saturn Square Venus 0.68
    Saturn Quincunx Jupiter 2.02
    Saturn Conjunction Uranus 5.33
    Saturn Conjunction Neptune 3.36
    Saturn Opposition Chiron 5.86
    Saturn Square Lilith 0.05
    Saturn Sextile True Node 1.24
    Saturn Square Vertex 1.70
    Saturn Square Ascendant 1.15
    Saturn Conjunction Midheaven 1.39

    Uranus Square Sun 7.22
    Uranus Square Venus 4.65
    Uranus quincunx Jupiter 3.32
    Uranus Conjunction Saturn 5.33
    Uranus Square Ascendant 4.18

    Neptune Square Sun 1.48
    Neptune Square Mercury 1.69
    Neptune Square Venus 4.04
    Neptune Quincunx Jupiter 5.38
    Neptune Conjunction Saturn 3.36
    Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.58
    Neptune Opposition Chiron 2.50
    Neptune Square Ascendant 4.51
    Neptune Conjunction Midheaven 1.97

    Pluto Square Moon 2.59
    Pluto Sextile Neptune 3.58
    Pluto Trine Chiron 1.08
    Pluto Trine P. of Fortune 0.55
    Pluto Sextile Midheaven 5.55

    Chiron Square Sun 3.97
    Chiron Quincunx Moon 1.51
    Chiron Square Mercury 0.80
    Chiron Quincunx Mars 5.42
    Chiron Opposition Saturn 5.86
    Chiron Opposition Neptune 2.50
    Chiron Trine Pluto 1.08
    Chiron Trine P. of Fortune 1.64
    Chiron Opposition Midheaven 4.47

    Lilith Opposition Sun 1.94
    Lilith Opposition Venus 0.63
    Lilith Trine Mars 0.49
    Lilith Sextile Jupiter 1.97
    Lilith Square Saturn 0.05
    Lilith Conjunction Vertex 1.65
    Lilith Conjunction Ascendant 1.10
    Lilith Square Midheaven 1.44

    True Node Quincunx Venus 0.56
    True Node Square Mars 1.68
    True Node Square Jupiter 0.78
    True Node Sextile Saturn 1.24
    True Node Sextile Midheaven 2.63

    P. of Fortune Trine Pluto 0.55
    P. of Fortune Trine Chiron 1.64

    Vertex Opposition Venus 1.02
    Vertex Trine Mars 2.14
    Vertex Sextile Jupiter 0.32
    Vertex Square Saturn 1.70
    Vertex Conjunction Lilith 1.65
    Vertex Conjunction Ascendant 0.55

    Ascendant Opposition Sun 3.03
    Ascendant Sextile Moon 5.50
    Ascendant Opposition Venus 0.47
    Ascendant Trine Mars 1.58
    Ascendant Sextile Jupiter 0.87
    Ascendant Square Saturn 1.15
    Ascendant Square Uranus 4.18
    Ascendant Square Neptune 4.51
    Ascendant Conjunction Lilith 1.10
    Ascendant Conjunction Vertex 0.55
    Ascendant Square Midheaven 2.54

    Midheaven Square Sun 0.49
    Midheaven Square Mercury 3.66
    Midheaven Square Venus 2.07
    Midheaven Quincunx Jupiter 3.41
    Midheaven Conjunction Saturn 1.39
    Midheaven Conjunction Neptune 1.97
    Midheaven Sextile Pluto 5.55
    Midheaven Opposition Chiron 4.47
    Midheaven Square Lilith 1.44
    Midheaven Sextile True Node 2.63
    Midheaven Square Ascendant 2.54

    1. Very generally, the more aspects between two charts, the more intense the relationship. However, in reality, the aspects that end up having the most power are those where there is a small or “tight” orb, one with virtually no separation between the two planets or points involved. Keep in mind that having this many connections between your charts just puts more energy into the interpersonal dynamics involved. It does not guarantee anything, positive or negative. Let me know if you ever need a chart reading. Here’s how to reach me: Thanks for reading and commenting on the blog!

  30. I know this is an old thread and such, however its been the most useful one I’ve found online so far!! I’ve made note of your book suggestion by the one & only Mr Hand, but I hope you can possibly aid me in interpreting mine & my partners composite. We have not one… But THREE yods, all of which involve mercury, Venus, pluto & Neptune. Involves the 5th house 12th house and 9th house! I have attempted to search online however, that was a failure lol.
    Many thanks

    1. There are no old threads here, largely because most of what I post is not time-sensitive, and therefore each post has educational value long after its date of birth. Much like people. 🙂

      Yes, I do the same kinds of online searches, pointlessly, since the online world seems to mostly be made up of prognostications, with very few astrologers dealing with the specifics of the chart. I’m going to be doing a series on composite charts after I finally finish the nodal axis, sometime next year, at the rate I move, which is akin to molasses in January. But in general, I would say if I saw three yods, (not taking anything else into account, which I shouldn’t do, but I’m old and tired today) then clearly the relationship exists for a particular purpose.

      The rest of the chart tells you something about that purpose; I suspect the 5th house ‘drew you in,’ in the sense that it made or makes the relationship seem ‘romantic’ on the surface, like pollen attracting the bee to the flower, but the 9th and 12th houses have a higher purpose that can only be discovered a) over time and b) with intention. In other words, two people can certainly stumble into a yod-filled life together, but if one takes the time to develop consciousness of one’s life purpose as it is expressed through the relationship, you might go into the Peace Corps or something with that combination and do some good with your lives.

      I don’t have “the answer” as to what you should be doing, but it’s clear you have the combined potential to do something of purpose and meaning together (more so than in other, less ‘fateful’ relationships). Now, this combination also does not promise that the two people will stay together; I’d have to see the rest of the chart to be able to assess how stable and/or volatile the relationship is in general. Just that during the time you are together, you have the potential to do something truly inspired.

      Yods are powerful energy, and I imagine most people are probably just wasting them, unless they feel driven to accomplish the thing they are here to accomplish. Unfortunately, you know, yods are also not a promissory note from the universe that what one does will be for the common good. Too many of the people involved in creating the war machine of Nazi Germany had yods. They tend to drive the person to accomplish something, but to what end? You have to take the whole chart into account, and pay particular attention to the nature and quality of the yod’s focus planet. Ultimately, a yod, like any other aspect, merely represents an energy pattern. How it is expressed will be affected by more than just the personal chart; it will also be affected by the circumstances around the person (or two people) that ‘push back’ at you.

  31. I’ve been interested in composite charts lately and I looked into my own composite with my S.O. We have a t-square between our Sun/Mars conjunction opposing Mercury and Neptune squaring both. I’m very confused on how this energy works in our composite. Thank you for the great article! It was really educational!

    1. After I finish the Nodal axis series, I am doing a series on Composite charts, so it’s entirely likely the T-square in the composite will come up. Just keep in mind that you’re combining four planets’ energies with the energy of the T-square (T-squares are usually inconsistent and tense). Take Sun/Mars first; that’s a lot of ego energy expressed in your relationship. You haven’t mentioned the houses, which are an important detail to determine which areas of life are involved. So, Sun/Mars, which is direct, masculine, energetic, forceful, is in tension with how you communicate with one another + Neptune, which is too complicated to get into without knowing the sign and house. At times when you express your ego needs as a couple, it probably puts some kind of tension on your communicative style (or vice versa; communication is not based on absolute honesty with Mercury in relationship to Neptune, or you get confused or sidetracked way too easily). On the other hand, you know, too many people who have been together for a very short period of time over-focus on these kinds of aspects, and I don’t know how long you’ve been together.

  32. Hi Alison,

    What do you know about the Rosetta/trapeze aspect in composite charts? Is this a good or bad pattern aspect to have? I’ve attempted to do some of my own research and not much has been written about it 🙁 what are your thoughts on composite patterns more generally too?

    1. Hello! Thanks very much for your questions. If you look here (and scroll down the list that comes up) you’ll see that Astrology Dictionary addresses your first question:

      As for Composite patterns, can you be more specific, because of course, there are many to choose from. I personally do not necessarily think it’s imperative to work with more than the accepted (and therefore known) aspects. I’d say if you see yods in a Composite, you should sit up and take notice. Grand Trines are significant, for a number of reasons. A Grand Square is also extremely interesting. Any of the major aspects stand out. As for more ‘obscure’ aspects, like the Huber’s “trapeze” is interesting to look at, most certainly, but one has to decide at what point am I going to limit the amount of aspects I discuss, and that’s not an aspect I personally would bother with, but obviously, others work with it and see it as significant (although I have to tell you, I don’t hear about it very often, so I do not know how significant it is in the real world, as opposed to discussing astrology theoretically).

      If you think that aspect works the way the website above specifies, let me know. I think it would be interesting to try to apply it in a composite, and I suppose you could try to apply it in an individual’s chart, but that kind of psychological assessment of this aspect is so specific that it creates a situation where if the person or relationship does not actually have that problem or behavior, you tend to ignore the aspect altogether. I think that the people who are promoting this aspect have made the mistake of over-specifying its purpose or behaviors, and therefore making it very difficult to use except for certain people. Not everyone who has that set of aspects behaves that way, in other words, and it’s very hard to take those kinds of very specific assessments seriously.

  33. Hi Alison,

    I was wondering whether you could tell me more about progressed charts and what they actually represent? I can see that me and my SO have an unaspected Venus in our progressed composite for two years. Do you know what this could mean?

    1. Since this is one of only many aspects that are influencing your charts, I’d say the most relevant thing you could do would be to look to see if that Progressed Venus “speaks to” any of the other charts involved; how does it fall in the synastry, for example? The other thing that sort of worries me is that many, many people assume or think that a planet is entirely (and I mean ENTIRELY, which is actually quite rare) unaspected, when in fact, the aspects it makes are to things you almost don’t see, since you’re not looking at the chart for the small things, such as inconjunctions, semi-sextiles, Biquintiles, or even aspects the planet makes to the Arabic Parts or Lots. And then again, the house the planet falls in is CRUCIAL to an interpretation. I would have to actually see the chart to tell you what I see; that’s the problem with a question about only one tiny detail of any chart, I’m afraid.

      What you must listen to, when you ask a question like the one above, is, what do I feel about this question? Why am I asking it? For example, many people ask because they either fear or assume that this sort of aspect/non-aspect question means something “bad” is going to happen. But if you were playing Bridge and you had a void in one suit, you wouldn’t necessarily have a catastrophe on your hands. You’d find a way around the problem, if it even is a problem at all.

      Keep in mind that we often create our own futures, based on the way we behave and feel in the now. Don’t go looking for trouble. 🙂

  34. Hi! Thank you for this great article about composite charts! I would be very grateful to you if you could explain me the significance of North Node in 4th house in Scorpio 14 degrees, Saturn in 8th house in Pisces, 10 degrees, Sun and Moon in the 5th house in Sagittarius in the composite chart? I tried to find information in the Internet and unfortunately many articles were the same.
    Can you tell me just a few words about this and it will help me very much to understand the role of these relationships in my life.

    1. I’m not sure if you’ve already taken a look at this page even though it’s not specifically about the Composite chart, it nonetheless might help overall. Then there’s the 5th house influences, and those are quite interesting I’d see if any of this helps at all, and then let me know if you need more detail. Thanks for reading!

  35. Hi Alison- I love your article, Thank you so much for that!! I have fallen down the rabbit hole looking to answer a question- what is your take on a 12th house stellium in a romantic chart? The chart is pretty direct- saturn in the seventh in leo and jupiter in the fourth in aries, moon and pluto conjunct in the tenth in libra- with a stellium in the 12th of sun mercury and neptune conjunct in sag- and then ceres and a renegade inspected venus. I feel caught between wanting to have faith that what feels right is real and fears around trust and deception that make me want to throw the baby out with the bath water. I would love your insight if you get any ideas! Thank you so much and happy holidays, Ashley

    1. I will be getting to the 12th house composite chart relatively soon. I’m assuming you mean the 12th house composite sun? You should probably separate out your personal feelings from the composite, since the composite chart does not represent your feelings; that can be better seen through the synastry. A Composite is going to show you how the relationship functions as a unit, and that is a difficult concept for most people to get at first, because you have to actually have functioned as a unit to understand what that feels like. This is why I do not recommend using a composite chart for relationships younger than a year, let’s say, but really, it’s the synastry that can tell you the most when things are not entirely “well” between the two people.

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