The 11th House: Shine On, You Crazy Diamond

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Traditional rulerships, which have certain limitations, force us to paste the sign’s meaning onto the house.

This carries with it some problems, since not all things true to the sign are going to be true of the house. Instead of focusing entirely on the nature of the sign ruling the cusp (Aquarius, in the case of the 11th house), we should consider focusing instead on the nature of the element (Air) combined with its associated ruling planet (Uranus) and ask, what does that tell us about the nature of the house involved?

Most of the time, of course, Aquarius itself is not actually on the 11th house cusp. In my chart, for example, the 11th house has Scorpio on its cusp, which automatically gives my 11th house a Scorpionic overtone. Scorpio there makes it harder to function as an air house, for one thing. This is going to matter more to an interpretation of my chart than the question “Is my 11th house in any way Aquarian?” The answer is, no, it’s really not. But do we really need Aquarius muddying the waters, so to speak, when we have Uranus and the element of air to work with?

Then I take a look at what we know about Uranus: its myth, history, and association with Ouranos, the Ancient Greek sky-god. That combination, plus the sign on the cusp of the 11th, will tell me a lot more about the person in question than asking in what way they are, or aren’t, expressing Aquarius energy.

Besides which, I refute the idea that any house should be constrained by keywords like ‘friendship’, ‘membership in groups’, and ‘dreams, hopes and desires.’ Once you start looking at houses and their axis relationship to their opposite house, and the ways in which each house is a mirror for its opposite, you begin to see a much larger picture of how the chart functions. This also gives you the opportunity to see how the 11th fulfills the promise of the 5th, or the ways in which the 5th foreshadows what happens in the 11th.

To understand the 11th house experience, filtered through Ouranos/sky god myths, the element of air and how we have come to connect it with the workings of the intellect, we then look at how Western society arrived at our perception of intellectual ability; specifically genius, which is the apotheosis of creative ability alluded to in the 5th house of creativity.

The word ‘genius’ was not always associated with ‘exceptional talent or native ability.’ Every child has a talent of some kind, but that doesn’t make every child—or every grown-up who develops that talent—into a genius, yet the 5/11 axis shows that potential. Ambition and setting of goals seen in the 10th finds expression in the 11th, the house of one’s true vocation—which might not be a job at all, and might not pay any money. That on its own does not make it an avocation; instead, the 11th is the house I look to for one’s true calling or life purpose.

The lineage behind the meaning of the word ‘genius‘ is long and complicated.

In brief, it began as a derivation from the Greek for “distributing destiny” or daimon. It was adapted by the Classical Romans and came to be linked with one’s personal guiding spirit, or life-force. It isn’t until the 1600s that the word is associated with exceptional natural ability, and starts to be applied to creative geniuses like Leonardo da Vinci and his contemporary, Michelangelo, whose unique vision marked them out from other artists, inventors, and creators of their day.

This is the essence of genius, the idea that the ability is so remarkable as to be extraordinary. This brings me to the nature of the 11th house, which, if the hierarchy of the horoscope has any validity at all, should be the place where we look for advanced intellectual ability.

The term ‘genius’ is fraught with difficulty in a postmodern era. Children marked as geniuses, or those with obvious, extraordinary talent, don’t always show up on the radar until later in life; in contrast, child prodigies often have social problems, fitting in with their peers and their own family, leading to isolation. Genius brings with it many problems, not the least of which the fact that use of the terminology itself is under debate.

Once again, the association with some numinous, poorly defined divine source, is a problem for postmodernists. We tend not to think like that; it’s too romantic, yet you’ll find mathematicians and scientists falling into the trap of referring to extraordinary mental feats as ‘acts of genius,’ a vague and muddy phrase if ever there was one.

Think about what it takes to be a genius, the fact that you are marching to the beat of your very own drummer, and you begin to understand the fundamental isolation of the 11th house. Collectivism is all well and good if you fit into the zeitgeist, but what if you’re on the fringe, or the edge, of the coming change?

If you’ve created the idea that foments the revolution in thought, design, or implementation, it’s most likely you’ll be either reviled or put on a pedestal. Either way, no one knows who you are. They do not understand, and it’s likely they’ll never understand, that underneath all of this intellectual ability lies a real person.

The 11th is where, no matter the level of intellectual ability, one finds the kernel of what makes us human, which is our ability to express ourselves through our humanity:  through our ability to speak, draw, write, paint, sing, dance, create. Ironically, these abilities also distance us from others. All of the higher-order cognitive functioning skills belong here.

Communicative ability, a higher-order cognitive skill, becomes problematic, though, since we can speak precisely, and convey our deepest meaning, or we can obfuscate, mislead, and misconstrue, all the while being very intellectually capable, yet socially inept. The 11th, therefore, stands for our ability to both connect, and disconnect, from society.

Leonardo da Vinci was a prototypical genius whose life was extremely odd, when viewed from the more prosaic perspective of ‘ordinary people’. He was never published, for one thing. He was too busy creating and inventing to care excessively if his work was being promulgated to the masses. He was also an omnibus genius, in that his primary talent lay in drawing and painting, but it branched out from there into invention and architectural design.

Extraordinary images in Leonardo da Vinci's notebooks; the notebooks themselves have an extraordinary history, as most were lost or sold off, only to be rediscovered much later.
Extraordinary images in Leonardo da Vinci’s notebooks; the notebooks themselves have an extraordinary history, as most were lost or sold off, only to be rediscovered much later.

Albert Einstein is another good example of a genius, and he was a very interesting person. I like Einstein for a lot of reasons; he has great quotes, for one thing (see below). But I like him best for things like the time he failed his entrance examination to one of the schools he attended in his teen years. The thing is, being a genius does not mean you’re perfect. Geniuses tend to fail at tests, do badly in school, and never get published. This is normal for geniuses, so if you have a genius in your life, be kind to him or her, because it’s hard work being brilliant, and no one treats you kindly because they’re either too busy making fun of you, or asking you to do their homework for them.

That's not a shower cap; that's his hair
Albert Einstein was pretty impressive too. That’s not a shower cap; that’s his hair.
An Einstein quote: “Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius—and a lot of courage—to move in the opposite direction.”

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32 thoughts on “The 11th House: Shine On, You Crazy Diamond”

  1. Good Writing! I enjoyed your incites into the 11th house. I appreciate your view on geniuses as well. As having done much soul searching into the 11th house/Uranus/Air element I can tell you propagating some facade of genius is no desire of mine. More so, having studied Ninpo (Collection of Japaneses martial arts) the connection I felt more in tune with, in relation to Uranus especially, is the idea of disruption. That is what I consider my true vocation, a sort of psychological, social and culture jammer. In this way, the underlining emphasis you placed on genius not necessarily being related to any specific innate talent is important. In our society, any indication of ‘smarts’ gives you a one way ticket down the same narrow path. Any soul from the 11th house unlucky enough to be ushered in this way will find themselves stifled, stagnant and gasping for air. So it is hard. We express through chaos, or seemingly to our peers, and our mentors are locked behind bars or in the annals of uprising. We need all the smarts we can get to find our way, just to turn it all upside down.

    1. Genius is a slippery elitist slope. Far too many want to be cattle-prodded into that great roundup, without realising that once they’ve been branded by society, society will now decide what to do with you, from funding to decapitation if you fail to produce the goods. The 11th house can also point to ways in which we desperately want freedom from this societally-imposed rat race of hierarchy. I also think the 11th is possibly, along with the 12th, the most complicated house in the chart.

      1. Could not agree more. Luckily, for both the 11th and 12th houses they have each-other. One of my best friends and roommate is a 12th house resident. Some of the only solace I find in this world resides in his ‘whatever’ attitude. He is a type of seer but he doesn’t really care to be. Don’t blame him though, who has use for such abilities anymore…right? Well I do and I strongly encourage him. In that way, he finds comfort in my 11th house ways. All he needed was someone to appreciate his tools, such tools that are so enigmatic to most. I think of the Ouroboros, or rather whats going on inside the Ouroboros, when looking at our friendship. Such a comfortable pairing of chaos and paradox seated in his innate understanding of that infinite dark that resides in us all where such things shouldn’t be picked apart any further. He keeps me sane and I keep him awake.

  2. Wow. I really like your insights into the 11th house. The 11th house is definitely the most important house in my chart. It has my Sun (asc ruler) exactly conjunct Mars (MC ruler) at 11 Gem. It also has my North Node at 25 Gem. I think it’s interesting that I’m finding this info during this eclipse season while they’re hitting that conjunction and my nodal axis. A lot of the interpretations I would read about the 11th house were so vague, I simply didn’t know how it would relate to me. That paragraph about expressing humanity in our talents was particularly powerful. “Helps us connect, but also distances us” was definitely something I could relate to and has been a theme throughout my life (I also have Aquarius Moon in 7th and Uranus exactly trine Asc.). I’ll definitely be subscribing to your feed! You have some great perspective!

    1. Thank you… I’m glad you saw something that made some sense to you. I have the goal of getting more writing done on this blog fairly soon. I am taking a step back at the moment, to get some perspective and also to figure out what I need to say.

  3. I am interested in how transiting Saturn will function in the 11th house. How does the earthy and slow nature of Saturn, Work, Pressure, Narrowness etc. function in this Air House?
    I really like your interpretation of the 11th as a continuation of the 10th house of vocation, very interesting. You mentioned you had a Capricorn Ascendant, as I do, how does the nature of Saturn in Scorpio transform (which is what it does doesn’t it?) the “Genius” of the 11th?

    1. Actually, when it comes to me personally, my ASC is 29˚ Sagittarius. The Galactic Center is my home. 🙂 As for the function of Saturn in the 11th, Saturn is a co-ruler of Aquarius, and therefore is not necessarily an uncomfortable fit. In fact, in some ways, you could say that Aquarius provides excellent ground for Saturnian energy, since the nature of earth is more practical than emotional, more intellectual than visceral. However, the nature of Saturn is to bring, at one level, limitation and lack, so you can expect some version of that during any transit of Saturn (especially if there are things about yourself or your life you either take for granted, no longer need any more, have outgrown, but are unwilling to give up, or haven’t developed sufficiently).

      The perpetual focus we have these days on Saturnian “lessons” gets a little tedious, if you ask me. However, Saturn’s role seems to be, primarily, about structure and pragmatism. So there are areas of life, like the 11th, where you scratch your head when you come up against the idea of how to relate “structure and pragmatism” with the nature of the 11th. If you take a look at the kinds of issues that come during 11th house transits, one of them can be how one connects or does not connect to the collective. Scratching the surface of that, and depending on the rest of your life, and how you express your energy, your relationships to groups of all kinds will, most likely, change or be more limited. You might see friends come and go, for example. Friends often exist in our lives in groups, so whatever group of friends you used to associate with or identify with, might have to undergo serious transformation so that they more accurately reflect your new reality.

      Saturn in Scorpio combined with someone’s 11th blends two fixed energies, if you subscribe to the idea that houses have ‘natural’ rulers. The 11th is associated with Aquarius. I personally associate the ideas and ideals of genius with the 11th, and sometimes with Aquarius, the sign. With Capricorn on the Ascendent, all Saturn transits take on an importance they don’t necessarily have for others. I’d say that you should think in terms of what Scorpio’s strengths or weaknesses are, and see if you’ve earned Scorpio qualities. If so, you shouldn’t have any problem expressing Saturn in Scorpio, which is a determined, and very stable and faithful energy when Saturnian rules have been followed. If you have not done the work, you don’t get to reap the rewards. Saturn in Scorpio when you haven’t done the work will take stuff away from you, 11th house stuff, and you’ll feel really bad, since Scorpio is a bitch to have to answer to when you’ve been lazy or ignorant about that which Scorpio takes seriously, like loyalty, as just one of many possible examples.

  4. This is the first post about the 11th house that seems most accurate to me. My 11th house cusp is in Scorpio and I have the Sun conj Pluto in the 11th along with Venus in the 11th. I also have Uranus in the 1st house. Honestly, from life experience, it seems all of my energy flows through the 11th house and the themes and lessons of Uranus. This quote, specifically, encapsulates my lifelong struggle between being here, in the “today”, like everyone else and being bothered with the mundane like grocery shopping, small talk, tests and housework, or being true myself and living 100% in a world of tomorrow focused on the abstract so to speak.

    “The thing is, being a genius does not mean you’re perfect. Geniuses tend to fail at tests, do badly in school, and never get published. This is normal for geniuses, so if you have a genius in your life, be kind to him or her, because it’s hard work being brilliant, and no one treats you kindly because they’re either too busy making fun of you, or asking you to do their homework for them.”

    GREAT post! 🙂

    1. Thank you for reading and taking the time to comment, Annabelle. I have Moon conjunct Jupiter in the 11th (with Scorpio on the cusp) and I do think that if your planets in the 11th are in stressful aspect to other planets in the chart (or even if they’re not) the 11th is a “difficult” house for most people to live with, since it’s a loner position for planets, most of which seem to give one a choice between being a group/follower kind of person, or a loner/leader kind of person. Usually, in my experience, 11th house planets make their owner more uncomfortable in group situations, unless there’s something else going on in the chart which allows you to fit in with the zeitgeist. There are signs and planets and houses that do a better job of appearing “normal,” but the 11th is not one of them, it seems. This isn’t to say there’s anything inherently wrong with banging your own drum at your own speed and rhythm, but just don’t expect others to immediately like you or to feel understood, particularly with Pluto in connection with the Sun. It’s just too intense an energy, and it can take a lifetime to figure out precisely how best to use that Sun/Pluto combination, since it’s a lot of power to carry around in one human.

      1. Interesting. I agree with your statement regarding the choice being follower/group person and leader/loner person after examining my own chart.
        Whenever I become leader, I feel burdened and restricted with others’ dependence (Saturn square Mars) so I’d rather be the follower, who is able to sometimes detach from the group to fill the need to be in solitude; as long as the said group has dependable leader and friendly atmosphere.

        1. Yes, it’s interesting, I think, that 11th house planets frequently feel overwhelmed or burdened by the needs of others, maybe more so on a conscious level than 12th house planet people. The 11th is so very interested in others, but doesn’t necessarily want to be responsible for them. It’s too easy to have compassion overload with 11th house planets, in my experience. That whole quadrant, from the 10th through the 12th, is ‘other-oriented’, but that doesn’t mean your relationship to others is uncomplicated, particularly with squares to the the first quadrant, houses 1-4.

          1. Right, that’s why I kind of don’t feel related to astrology articles about Sun in 11th House being the leader of massess. Having Leo Moon and Sun cj. Pluto also don’t make me want to have power over others. After examining the chart as whole instead, with the heaviest planet placements in 11th House (square Moon in 8th House) and 12th House (square Saturn in 3rd House) with Neptune and Uranus in 1st House, I feel so awkward with anything and probably more suitable for solitary work. I don’t particularly want to belong to a group, and especially don’t want to lead any. According to your replies, all these placements are indeed very difficult for me to handle because I’m sometimes interested with others, but I tend to detach and escape to avoid unneccessary responsibilities. When I finally let someone in, I then become too much. That’s why now I try to fake myself by playing Aquarius/Libra tendencies around others (although the Aries/Scorpio is super visible already; better too late than not at all). To function, I rely on Saturn trine Sun/Mercury sextile Neptune (conscious effort in turning ideals as future goals into reality) and even Sun cj. Pluto (the staying power). Anything that works.

          2. I do think that Saturn in any fire sign makes the person less likely to want to take on what are otherwise fire-related issues, particularly taking on certain responsibilities for other people. This isn’t to say that Fire Saturns are incapable or something, it’s just that they’re not eager to run into the situations that Fire Suns would. I also think that Pluto in aspect to personal planets makes for a ‘loner’.

            When you think about the original Hades or Pluto, he was on his own a lot, and was also quite intimidating. He could get quite lonely, but he wasn’t likely to change to suit others; others had to change to suit him, most of the time—Pluto is not the place in our charts/lives where we easily bend to someone else’s will or compromise. This looks a lot like wielding “power” from the outside, but there are plenty of times when Pluto’s characteristics are based on the native’s unwillingness to change. So there is a ‘fixed’ nature to Pluto, and that behavior tends to seem intimidating to others if the native’s Pluto is dominant in the chart.

            I do think that when Pluto is dominant (by being in aspect to Sun or any of the other personal planets) you are forced to compensate by making use of the less-emotional and more ‘intellectual’ side of the personality, largely because Pluto is affiliated with Water through its association with the 8th house and Scorpio.

            This association is part of why it’s so difficult to work with Pluto, because so much of the energy is buried and inaccessible on the conscious level. Okay, so what does that mean on a daily basis? On a daily basis, Pluto functions like having a unconscious compulsion, and those are not always controllable.

            I always think that we have to go back to our earliest childhood environments to see if there’s anything we learned or picked up from the behaviors and attitudes of the people around you to see if you are unconsciously mirroring someone’s behavior from that period.

            For example, I have Moon square Pluto and I lived with my grandmother for a few years when I was quite little, and I know I picked up a number of her intense personality quirks; I ‘inherited’ her Moon/Mars square as well, since she and I both had Mars in Leo and Moon in Scorpio. I’m not the easiest person to be with in real life, and I spend most of my time alone. I think it’s inevitable when you have Pluto aspects. I’m not just difficult, I have reasons why I am the way I am, but then we all do. This is why compassion for others’ personality disorders is so important. 🙂

          3. Thank you for sharing your story And for always replying 🙂

            Now I’ll revisit my background life.

            My father is irresponsible person who has been running away from harsh reality and responsibilities (Sun aspect to Neptune). Athough he is very secretive and intense, he chooses to be detached and unemotive (8th-11th House). At times he randomly tell me secrets, and he intuitively understands me extremely well on unconscious level although I’m not close to him (Scorpio Sun aspect to Pluto). He is also unpredictable and unconventional person (Sun aspect to Uranus) to the extent being embarassing. Despite everything, he wants me to work hard and to always be serious in studying to get a good job so I won’t end up like him (Sun aspect to Saturn).

            As for my mother, she is dramatic and emotional but very untrusting and secretive person (Leo Moon in 8th House). Being so selfless, she provides me entertainment and comfort to make sure I always feel joyful and content. She is always happy to provide and let me in expanding my knowledge. When I was a kid, despite her generosity, she sometimes couldn’t control her anger and one day she ended up repeatedly hitting my head in bathroom, and later drowning my head into water (my father later saved me). As I get older, she becomes very forgiving and non-violent towards me. (Moon aspect to Venus, Jupiter, and Mars in Sagittarius in 12th House). She is very controlling and extremely protective, not wanting me to experience the harsh reality to the extent I couldn’t socialize. She has that subtle power of manipulation, which I never fail to fall for.

          4. I’m always sorry when we get parents who weren’t ready or weren’t qualified to be good caretakers, although it has to be said, your Saturn squares point to that already. It would have been unlikely that you got the greatest parents ever (although it could happen, I’m sure) and then also got Saturn squares (to the personal planets). I have a Sun/Neptune square (although it’s wide) and my biological father was an alcoholic who died at age 48, long after he left the scene and my mother remarried, back when I was about 7-8 (that crucial first Saturn square to itself, which it does every seven years—that is, it squares and opposes itself every 7-8 years).

            Don’t forget that changes do happen in people, and they are reflected more in progressed charts than in the natal. The natal can show how transits affect the person during the time in question, but progressions show longterm changes, like the kind you’re experiencing with your mother now. Also, your responses will change to her too. Your father is interesting because he’s apparently trying to teach you from a Saturnian place not to do what he did. That’s not uncommon with Saturn aspects; you can see your flaws really clearly, often, and then you don’t want that to happen to your child.

            I mostly always answer, except for times when I’m so busy I don’t see the comment until I can get back to the computer. 🙂

  5. I have Scorpio Sun/Mercury (and Sagittarius Pluto) here and the part that explains Scorpio’s difficulity in expressing itself in air house hit me right. I have Moon in 8th House and Uranus in 1st house so the Scorpio-Aquarius dynamic is oddly familiar. I’m emotionally intense but sometimes detached; strikingly stand-out individual but dislike attention and prefer solitude; easy read as open-book but is secretive; and so on.
    Nice article. I’ll continue reading your interesting writings on this site.

    1. Yes, exactly. Another response I wrote to you speaks to this particular problem of planets that kind of just don’t “work” together. It’s not uncommon that humans are filled with dichotomies and inconsistencies, and I think the planets reflect this.

  6. My 11th house Moon is conjunct Pluto in Leo, squaring my 8th house stellium and the 2nd house north node in Scorpio. I never felt I could fit in and even now at the doorstep of my second Saturn return this Moon placement is a remaining struggle and mystery for me. Yes Uranus is in the 11th house also.

    You wrote “I think it’s inevitable when you have Pluto aspects. I’m not just difficult, I have reasons why I am the way I am, but then we all do.
    This is why compassion for others’ personality disorders is so important”

    and it makes me sad to see how often this compassion is lacking in the world of today.

    1. I think one-on-one compassion is harder than it ought to be. It seems so 11th house or possibly Aquarian an ideal to say that we ‘should’ all be able to take care of each other, but since we contain both light and dark at one and the same time, I think we’re probably only going to be as giving as our Moon will allow. When or if your Moon is stressed, it’s harder to give from a place of compassion. I’m sure, however, that there are givers who give from the head, from the place of obligation, which is fine too, just so long as people in need get some help—I don’t think the motives for helping are as important as helping itself. Having said that, we can only individually be responsible for so much; no one person has the ability or resources to give endlessly. There’s not much point in giving until you’re an empty cup.

  7. Wow was this illuminating. I have a PACKED 11th house (Aries Sun conjunct Vesta; Taurus Mars conjunct Moon conjunct Mercury, Taurus Chiron; Gemini Venus) opposite a 5th house Pluto Saturn conjunction, and the way you articulated how isolating “marching to the beat of your very own drummer” can be really resonated with me. I know (or have read, or am told) that my 11th house emphasis indicates that I “should” have a life that is rich in friendships, and that it is important for me to bond with like-minded individuals and whatnot, and I’m like, that sounds great! I yearn for those things! But somehow or another, they seem perpetually out of my grasp, and as a result, I live a fairly solitary existence. I guess because the 11th house is so weighted in my chart, it’s strange to feel so lost in that arena, but maybe that’s the point–to push me out of my comfort zone and urge me to actually connect with others while remaining true to my own strange self. I’m currently in the midst of a Uranus transit (conjunct my sun), so perhaps this is the cosmic assistance I need! Anyway, I appreciated your article, so thanks for that!

    1. Thanks very much for reading, and I’m really glad you got something out of it. Something I’d suggest taking a look at is, what’s going on with your 5th house, what kind of aspects do you have to planets in your 5th, and what do you think in general prevents you from reaching out to others to make the kinds of connections the 11th house is “known” for, as you’ve said? I do think that once you’ve spent enough time on the planet, you figure out that you don’t really have to have a Filofax full of friends in order to survive, but it can, nonetheless, feel somewhat lonely if you sit there watching others go out with friends, all the while wondering why you feel so alone.

      I do think there is a fair of amount of self-sufficiency with the 11th house, but there’s also the 5th house/Leonine need for others to share things with, and I actually think that’s where the real problem lies.

      I think the more you understand that the 11th house is pulling you to do your own thing, the easier it becomes to let go of a Leonine need for companionship, but it’s a very rough process for most people, if it’s even a good idea for most people, which it probably isn’t. But there’s a type of life that absolutely requires that kind of 11th-house isolation, and that need usually comes with some sort of mission in life that prevents making a lot of friends, because they just get in the way, quite honestly. But everyone needs someone to share stuff with, and that’s the issue–finding that person.

  8. This was a great read about the 11th house.
    It got me intrigued and happy since is not the usual ”friends, network, hopes&dreams” description. This house is empty but it makes me wonder about saggitarius duplicated there in my 11&12th houses.
    Is there a trick to duplicated cusps??
    My uranus is part of the generational capricorn stellium in 1st, and saturn in aquarius +ceres& lilith still in 1st. Aquarius is in my 2nd house and gives an appreciation of people’s individuality at large. If there’s one thing to it, is that I don;t try to change people and impose personal values on them. I am also fond of numerology and tried to integrate all of it to my lifepath 11 which is also an aquarius signature.

    1. Any house is so much more than those simplistic descriptions, but the real problem is that those descriptive words do not actually reflect most people’s reality. I had a friend with 5 planets in the 11th who absolutely hated the overly-simplistic view of this house. I personally have Moon conjunct Jupiter in the 11th, and I understand the difficulties of trying to make this house easier to explain than it is. Thank you very much for reading and commenting!

  9. Dear Alison, thank you for this and for all of your articles. As an astrology enthusiast and human being, I really appreciate your writing. I started off reading about my 5th/11th NN and SN and that brought me into exploring the houses more deeply through your articles. I find the houses particularly fascinating at this point in my astrological journey because, as you point out, the depth of the symbolism and poetry of the polarities is profound and enchanting. I too have been struggling with challenges you refer to in the 5th/11th and 4th/10th polarities particularly recently and I greatly appreciate your comments. Thank you 🙂

    1. Thank you very much for your thoughts, and I’m glad you’ve found something here that might provide a lilypad across the pond of life. 🙂 I find that getting from one place to the next in terms of knowing is sometimes best broken down into bits and pieces. Also, you know, when I originally read most of the available writing about astrology, charts, etc., it was heavily infused with spiritualism, which is great, I have nothing against spiritualism, but there were so many gaps in actual “how do I do this?” that I found my own personal style evolved over time into something much more ‘pragmatic,’ rather than purely “about” one’s soul or something.

      Plus, the more research one does, the more it becomes clear that human beings typically respond to or against what came before, while never actually spelling out what they’re responding to. Therefore, the history of why we think the things we do about astrology seems even more important to me, because all you have to do is dig into someone’s attitude about some piece of astrology to find their prejudices or reasons why they feel the way they do. In my case, I feel the way I do because it seemed to me from a very early age (approximately 11) that there was much that wasn’t being said about astrology and its history that was nonetheless informing our use of astrology. I personally prefer to know where my information comes from, rather than be told what to think (i.e., read as many primary sources as one can). My rationale: Moon/Jupiter conjunction in Scorpio in the 11th (square 5 8th house planets).

  10. Thank you so much for responding. I absolutely agree that the ‘how’ part leaves me stumped and causes incredible frustration. Thank you for the encouragement to follow the thread as far as it can be traced back and to stay inquisitive and open to what the symbols might point to in the purest sense.

    1. Yes, absolutely, of course you must do your own research. The key ultimately is doing the synthesis once you’ve learned the bits and pieces of what goes where. Just give yourself time to sit back and reflect; if you try to figure it out all at once, it becomes overwhelming and then you don’t think you know ‘enough’ when in fact, you do. It just takes time to put it all together. Have you read the basics that are very good how-tos, like Robert Pelletier’s Planets in Houses or Robert Hand’s Horoscope Symbols and Isabel Hickey’s Astrology A Cosmic Science (which does get esoteric and spiritual; that’s always interesting, if not entirely pragmatic). There was a series created many years ago that both Robert Hand and Robert Pelletier were authors of, and I’d definitely take a look at that (Amazon is good at listing these kinds of books/authors).

  11. Hi Alison,
    I’m very interested in getting a reading from you by email or phone (preferably).
    I have a flexible schedule. I am in Eastern Standard Time.
    I look forward to your reply.

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